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PostSubject: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyTue May 18, 2010 10:35 pm

I am interested in all Varigate,crest and monstrose cacti. I have a small part of my collection which i dedicate to these wierd and unusual freaks of nature. An interesting book on the subject is Gorden Rowleys TERATOPIA for more indepth detail. I sow thousands of seeds each year in search for something different have come across lots of freaks but most die before i get a chance to graft them as looking over thousands of seeds you can miss the odd white seedling or strange growth form. From normal parents of no varigation you might be lucky to get one in a thousand but from varigated parent you might get ten% if your lucky. I will post some photos of varigates i have not many but also intersted on anyone elses views or experiences. Also maybe some inter breeding results or crosses luv to see some nice pics.
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyTue May 18, 2010 10:39 pm

Varigates,Crests and monstrose 4590891713_a9e46a4834Ferocactus diguetii
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyWed May 19, 2010 7:16 pm

Varigates,Crests and monstrose 4621232608_c697bc78cbSome crests the large noto leninghausii cost $6 for the two large ones and $4 for the smaller one. Bargain i thought it was at the C and S society of SA november show.
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyWed May 19, 2010 10:01 pm

Wow... that's a Noto leninghausii crest? I woul never have picked that from the photo. They're some real beauties.
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyThu May 20, 2010 4:10 pm

i saw those leninghausii grafts at the show and thought about buying them. i have a crest at home that you can have i think it is an opuntia maybe it is on own root.
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyThu May 20, 2010 8:10 pm

Ill be cutting the big crests up in spring and a piece is yours darren. Varigates,Crests and monstrose Icon_biggrin
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyFri May 21, 2010 10:36 pm

found a photo of that crest i have...i think it might be opuntia or cylindropuntia... maybe C. Prolifera?Varigates,Crests and monstrose RIMG1044
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptySun May 23, 2010 10:14 am

Varigates,Crests and monstrose 4629207198_6ca1ab24f8Check out this Leuchtenbergia Principis seedling.
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptySun May 23, 2010 10:40 am

Whoa... what's going on there? Is it going to be a double-header or is it a crest forming?
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptySun May 23, 2010 3:34 pm

I think that maybe the original growing point was damaged it then started to grow two heads from this there are now more heads growing from the two new heads a total of six heads in all. I am interest to see how this grows i spotted it in my friends collection he gave it to me so we both will be interested how it grows thought of grafting but i think we will leave it on own roots.
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyMon Sep 27, 2010 8:47 pm

That is a really beautiful pachanoi crest... It's a shame more of this sort of material isn't in cultivation in Australia.
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should i lop this off & graft it?
Varigates,Crests and monstrose RIMG1232
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PostSubject: astro cristates   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyTue Sep 28, 2010 5:22 pm

Yes, I too think that Hybrids tend to variegate and/or form cristates!

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These are from self harvested astrophytum seeds.
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Varigates,Crests and monstrose Some_t47Sulco crest
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Varigates,Crests and monstrose Some_t48Turbinicarpus horripilus variegate
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyMon Nov 08, 2010 1:32 pm

Whoa, that sulco crest is massive... how old is it?
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyMon Nov 08, 2010 9:32 pm

Here is something I just noticed today and I thought was curious enough to share. Gymnocalycium ragonesi.
Plant on left is variegate with albino flowers, on right normal plant with normal flowers, middle rear...normal plant albino flowers!
Weird..
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyTue Nov 09, 2010 7:43 pm

Now that is a awesome photo. how curious ..... if you could have a normal plant with albino flowers everytime that would be sweet. I wonder if it will revert. either way that is one awesome find. Be nice to see all three open, Fingers crossed you'll update this one. =)

See you at the show good sir, hopefully grab some goodies off you.
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyTue Nov 09, 2010 7:56 pm

Those gymnos are very cool indeed. The albino flowers on a normal plant has me intrigued.
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptySat Nov 13, 2010 11:22 pm

their nice,
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyMon Dec 27, 2010 1:54 am

wowzers!!

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Yes, I too think that Hybrids tend to variegate and/or form cristates!

Toro, you mean hybrids in general or hybrids between plants that already have the traits , like cresting or variegation?


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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyMon Dec 27, 2010 8:32 pm

I meant (past tense) hybrids in general.
But it seems that hybrids between variegated plants yield much
more variegated plants then "normal" hybrids.
Or - may be - these hybrids are then 3- or 4-fold hybrids.
Like Astrophytum (Ornatum * Myriostigma) * (Asterias * Capricorne)

This guy collects variegated plants and then crosses them
As you can see here:
https://2img.net/h/i22.photobucket.com/albums/b314/joevargo/IMG_0654.jpg

or here:
http://www.thegardenforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=23122
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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 2:05 am

My latest purchase...and probably final...cos I dont have enough space any more..

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PostSubject: Re: Varigates,Crests and monstrose   Varigates,Crests and monstrose EmptyTue Dec 20, 2011 8:11 am

Ohh that's a nice one Numan. I can see from here and other posts you have A passion for cacti, this certainly won't be the last plant that enters your collection Smile

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