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gilligan

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PostSubject: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptySat Oct 11, 2008 9:12 pm

OK...

I just did my fist loph to trich pach hypocotyl graft... interesting that it is basically just chopping the scion off and the top off the stock and putting them on while they are still seedlings... I'll be interested to see if it really is that easy...

Does anyone have any links to some good hypocotyl graft info? All i've done is google and go from there - this was the main one i found, so i took my info from that Smile

http://www.cactus-center.com/e/ipflanze2.htm

If anyone has other info, would be stoked to read it... Will keep this updated as the graft (hopefully takes... apparently i should know in 24 hours... *fingers crossed*
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PostSubject: Re: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptySat Oct 11, 2008 10:25 pm

gilligan wrote:
...Will keep this updated as the graft (hopefully takes... apparently i should know in 24 hours... *fingers crossed*


Well not exactly, with ariocarpus and most other slow growing cacti it will be more like 2-3ish weeks before you can be sure. Once the scion begins to swell (they usually chnage colour too..either red or brownish) and new growth appears your graft was sucessful. I found ariocarpus were difficult to graft as seedlings to trichos..... but not impossible. It just took a bit of tinkering to get it just right.

Good luck and keep us posted Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptySun Oct 12, 2008 1:11 am

I hadnt heard of this one. After reading the link i was intrigued and had a look on google. You may have seen these but:

this link gives a basic rundown http://www.cactusedintorni.com/f__a__q__3.htm#22_%E2%80%93

also that cactus art site said Opuntia compressa was a good stock sp. for hypocotyl and other grafting http://www.cactus-art.biz/technics/Grafting_on_opuntia_compressa_characteristics.htm

I have a few seedlings starting now and im tempted to give it a whirl myself.. how old were your seedlings when you did the graft?
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PostSubject: Re: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptySun Oct 12, 2008 1:36 am

the seedlings are probably about 60 days old, if not a bit longer, i think they stunted a bit during the winter...

I'll be heading off for a week, so once i get back, i'll be able to get some pics of the graft,... if successful, i'll be doing a heap more, of not, will need to research a bit more... I have heaps of trich pachs growing about the same age, and enough lophs to get a suffiecient trial happening...

My optunias are getting bigger atm, and i have a compressa style one ready to take pups from, so will try this as well... Will keep updated...

I guess i should call this thread, gilligan's frankenstinian attempts at grafting... all i need now is a lightning bolt or two... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptySun Oct 12, 2008 3:09 pm

hmmmm... initial stages look promising... hasn't started to wilt yet, and it doesn't fall off when i poke it with a stick (yeah, i can't leave things alone... Smile) will update with more results next weekend...
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PostSubject: Re: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptySun Oct 12, 2008 5:02 pm

I tested once seedling-on-seedling grafting using super kabuto, 40 days old seedling.
The grafting was not so difficult but growing was very slow. I think stock was too small.
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PostSubject: Re: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptySun Nov 16, 2008 10:34 pm

ok, two have taken out of 5, those little fricking bugs thatcant be killed ate out the graft bit
i'l get some pics soon. The interesting thing is that i took the top off a super pedro x pach seedling, and put a loph on it, took the top from the SP pach and whacked it on the loph root - they both took! should be interesting to see growth on the loph base pach...
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PostSubject: Re: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptySun Nov 16, 2008 10:56 pm

PICS !!!!! Smile Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptyFri Dec 26, 2008 9:26 am

ok, finally got my arse around to getting these pics up... This is an older one of the graft, and i'll update with the new growth of it, seems to be cranking at the moment will be interesting when the stock and roots get bigger and crank more juice into the scion...

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PostSubject: Re: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptyFri Dec 26, 2008 9:26 am

umm - forgot to mention not the prettiest graft, but seems to have taken... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptyFri Dec 26, 2008 9:49 am

this is the top cut off the trich from the H graft, and set on the loph stock... figured why waste a healthy unit. I also found that as long as i keep the "waste" top from the graftable base, the tip will often grow roots of its own again, so i'm going to trial using the one tip for a number of grafts...

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PostSubject: Re: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptyFri Dec 26, 2008 2:04 pm

Wow - well done for the initiative and not wasting any of your cuts - looks good.
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PostSubject: Re: Hypocotyl grafting   Hypocotyl grafting EmptyFri Jan 02, 2009 10:22 pm

yup, that loph is def getting bigger... another week or so and i'll move it to it's own little pot to start life in the big wide world.

Did another 5 loph hypocotyls on the same type of stock, and when i was checking the stocks out, happened to find something that *possibly* is a crest... i'll be keeping a close eye on this one Smile (will get a pic up eventually)
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