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Torro

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PostSubject: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet   Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet EmptyTue Sep 14, 2010 5:38 pm

Hi, this is my first posting here.

I have some weird astrophytum hybrids.
Are there any fancy japanese names for these types, or am I free to name them?


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this looks like a yellow "Superkabuto", but itīs a coahuilense * asterias
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and a "normal" A. myriostigma tulense
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Hope you like them.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet   Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet EmptyWed Sep 15, 2010 8:09 am

crazy.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet   Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet EmptyWed Sep 15, 2010 2:36 pm

cool!
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet   Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet EmptyWed Sep 15, 2010 5:30 pm

Nice plants, heaps of potential. They are too young for naming purposes wait a while and see how they develop.

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PostSubject: And the winter is coming soon...   Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet EmptyWed Sep 15, 2010 10:34 pm

Thank you. So I will have to wait.
Your Astrophytum story inspired me to try something similar. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet   Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet EmptyThu Sep 16, 2010 12:27 am

I'm so glad you are following my journey. The fist two look like they could be monstrose but lets just wait and see Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet   Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet EmptyThu Sep 16, 2010 6:08 pm

You can not tell names for 1st and 2nd ones becuase of too young and grafted.
3rd one is Hakuran-kabuto.
Yellow color is Akebono-han, meaning twilight variegation.
Akebono-han must be created by the stress of hybridization.
Both of coahuilense and asterias flowers have yelloow petals and orange throat.
Since both species are same group, Akebono-han will never appear on these hybrid.

I think the asterias was a hybrid, had another gene.
Have you collect seeds by yourself?

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet   Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet EmptyFri Sep 17, 2010 3:58 pm

Hanazono,

I have some about 30 years old astros.
My daughter asked me:Do cacti produce fruits?
So I produced some fruits with the paintbrush.
Showed her a dragon fruit from the super market - it did not taste.
I sawed some seeds.
So I am not absolutely sure which genes are in which cactus.
It was just for fun, no scientific research.

>>I think the asterias was a hybrid, had another gene.
I bought the coahuilense last year, got it with a fruit and the seller told me:
Pollinated with asterias.
But may be it was a asterias with superkabuto genes.

Here are some pictures: www.torrosoftworks.de

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet   Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet EmptySat Sep 18, 2010 10:16 am

Torro
You collect good size of Astrophytum.
Your asterias next to an Echinopsis may also be mixed another gene, I think.

If the plant propagated by crossing between coaphuilense and superkabuto, you shoud call it "Hakuran-super".
I have several F1 Hakuran-super made by myself.
The photo is one of them. This plant, 10 cm daimeter has also Akebono-han partially.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet   Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet EmptySat Sep 18, 2010 10:06 pm

Hanazono,

thank you very much for your help.
>>Your asterias next to an Echinopsis may also be mixed another gene, I think.
Oops, it is about 30 years old and the seed came from Haage.
It is on its own roots.
So I think it should be an original one.

But I just bought some asterias seeds from the US - will see how big the difference is.

Your Hakuran-super is a beautiful plant indeed.

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet   Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet EmptySun Sep 19, 2010 6:03 am

Torro
The normal asterias life is around 20 years.
The shape of asterias becomes ugly when plant was very old.
You maitain your asterias very well.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet   Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet EmptyMon Sep 20, 2010 3:01 pm

Hanazono,

thanks again.
I have let it grow slowly, without too much care. Without pushing it with too much
water or fertilizer.
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