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Torro
Number of posts : 47 Location : Berlin, Germany Registration date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:38 pm | |
| Hi, this is my first posting here. I have some weird astrophytum hybrids. Are there any fancy japanese names for these types, or am I free to name them? this looks like a yellow "Superkabuto", but it´s a coahuilense * asterias and a "normal" A. myriostigma tulense Hope you like them. Torro | |
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catuscatus1
Number of posts : 51 Location : australia Registration date : 2010-08-17
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:09 am | |
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blowng Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 256 Location : Mellville Registration date : 2008-10-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:36 pm | |
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Hellonasty Admin
Number of posts : 1824 Location : NSW Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:30 pm | |
| Nice plants, heaps of potential. They are too young for naming purposes wait a while and see how they develop. | |
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Torro
Number of posts : 47 Location : Berlin, Germany Registration date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: And the winter is coming soon... Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:34 pm | |
| Thank you. So I will have to wait. Your Astrophytum story inspired me to try something similar. | |
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Hellonasty Admin
Number of posts : 1824 Location : NSW Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:27 am | |
| I'm so glad you are following my journey. The fist two look like they could be monstrose but lets just wait and see HN | |
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Hanazono Astromaniac
Number of posts : 825 Location : SA Registration date : 2008-09-14
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:08 pm | |
| You can not tell names for 1st and 2nd ones becuase of too young and grafted. 3rd one is Hakuran-kabuto. Yellow color is Akebono-han, meaning twilight variegation. Akebono-han must be created by the stress of hybridization. Both of coahuilense and asterias flowers have yelloow petals and orange throat. Since both species are same group, Akebono-han will never appear on these hybrid.
I think the asterias was a hybrid, had another gene. Have you collect seeds by yourself?
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Torro
Number of posts : 47 Location : Berlin, Germany Registration date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:58 pm | |
| Hanazono,
I have some about 30 years old astros. My daughter asked me:Do cacti produce fruits? So I produced some fruits with the paintbrush. Showed her a dragon fruit from the super market - it did not taste. I sawed some seeds. So I am not absolutely sure which genes are in which cactus. It was just for fun, no scientific research.
>>I think the asterias was a hybrid, had another gene. I bought the coahuilense last year, got it with a fruit and the seller told me: Pollinated with asterias. But may be it was a asterias with superkabuto genes.
Here are some pictures: www.torrosoftworks.de
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Hanazono Astromaniac
Number of posts : 825 Location : SA Registration date : 2008-09-14
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:16 am | |
| Torro You collect good size of Astrophytum. Your asterias next to an Echinopsis may also be mixed another gene, I think. If the plant propagated by crossing between coaphuilense and superkabuto, you shoud call it "Hakuran-super". I have several F1 Hakuran-super made by myself. The photo is one of them. This plant, 10 cm daimeter has also Akebono-han partially. Hanazono | |
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Torro
Number of posts : 47 Location : Berlin, Germany Registration date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:06 pm | |
| Hanazono,
thank you very much for your help. >>Your asterias next to an Echinopsis may also be mixed another gene, I think. Oops, it is about 30 years old and the seed came from Haage. It is on its own roots. So I think it should be an original one.
But I just bought some asterias seeds from the US - will see how big the difference is.
Your Hakuran-super is a beautiful plant indeed.
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Hanazono Astromaniac
Number of posts : 825 Location : SA Registration date : 2008-09-14
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:03 am | |
| Torro The normal asterias life is around 20 years. The shape of asterias becomes ugly when plant was very old. You maitain your asterias very well. Hanazono | |
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Torro
Number of posts : 47 Location : Berlin, Germany Registration date : 2009-09-02
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum hybrids without a name yet Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:01 pm | |
| Hanazono,
thanks again. I have let it grow slowly, without too much care. Without pushing it with too much water or fertilizer. Torro | |
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