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Carlo & Daniele



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PostSubject: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptySun Nov 30, 2008 7:35 am

Hello!
We'd like to show you some of our myrio kikko, the forms of this cultivar are really various:

myrio kikko koh-yo yellow
Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Cimg1116sl6

myrio kikko nudum (and bit 'hakuun')
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myrio onzuka kikko ball
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coahuilense kikko
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MichaelCactus
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptySun Nov 30, 2008 1:05 pm

TFS Smile
Im in love with the cultivar's you Italians are so lucky to have Smile
Would you be able to maybe post a photo of your Digitostigma i can see in the background?
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptySun Nov 30, 2008 6:19 pm

amazing! Very Happy
i really love the first pic, its like a rainbow in the background with all those variegated astros etc.
yes i would like to see the grafted digitostigma as well, its got tubercles going everywhere.
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Carlo & Daniele



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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyMon Dec 01, 2008 1:01 am

Thanks guys!
Here there is a photo of the plant flowering at the end of september.

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyMon Dec 01, 2008 9:41 am

Beautiful!! Very Happy
ps. you have an amazing collection in the background of your pics!! nice work.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyMon Dec 01, 2008 9:47 am

Thanks lewis! That part of the greenhouse is only with grafted cacti.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyMon Dec 01, 2008 11:16 am

Omg, your collection is even more amazeing! The digi is awsome, id probly kill just for a tubericle off it.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyMon Dec 01, 2008 2:27 pm

Carlo & Daniele, do you have any experience grafting tubercles of Digitostigma?
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyMon Dec 01, 2008 6:29 pm

That digi is unreal what a weird and wonderful plant Smile
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Carlo & Daniele



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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyMon Dec 01, 2008 11:21 pm

@ lewis: we do not have a big experience on grafting tubercles (we are a bit lazy and made only few attempts...). This type of grafting was made after the discover of this new plant, in order to develop fast this new plant. But with this method you can obtain clones of the same plant. We prefered to buy some grafted plants and obtain seeds from them, since own roots plants are different clones and much fascinating that grafted plants. The best stock for this plant seems to be ferocactus glaucescens. The plant in the picture is grafted on echinopsis.

@ MichaelCactus and Vicki: thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyWed Dec 03, 2008 10:12 am

Some another myrio kikko forms:

kikko nudum grafted on pereskiopsis:

Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Cimg1592la2

a form of onzuka kikko, always on pereskiopsis; it's still quite small but it's growing with quite regular ribs now

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coahuilense kikko with 4 ribs

Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Cimg1584mh9

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I love them all. Makes me want to move to Italy!

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyThu Dec 04, 2008 9:32 pm

Carlo & Daniele, is it more common amongst collectors in Italy to sell plant already grafted. Also, are there many collectors in Italy that you know of? Like a society or something like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyFri Dec 05, 2008 8:39 am

Hello KanJe, grafted cacti are common amon astro cultivar, since grafting is the only way to develop fastly these uncommn plants. Other plants are usually on own roots. About societies, on the web there are some forums, for example:

http://www.cactus-co.com/forum/index.php

http://www.panarottocactus.net/phpBB2/index.php

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptySat Dec 06, 2008 8:48 am

The astro photos on the second forum are totally amazing.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptySat Dec 06, 2008 8:57 am

It's because it's focused on astrophytums!
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptySun Dec 07, 2008 10:21 am

Carlo & Daniele
It seems your are real Kikko lovers. I also have several forms of kho-yo, kikko nudum.
The attached photo is similar to you plant, attached photo on 28th Nov. This one is red color and called "Red Bean".
This plant was grafted but I degrafted, diameter is around 15 cm.
Since plant is matured, not turend color in winter but the gene of Red Bean is remained.
Your kikko form of coahuilense is very nice. We call that form as "Konpeito" and I think it has not been in Australia yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyTue Dec 09, 2008 4:34 am

Thanks Hanazono, you have very good plants! Are your plants principally from seeds? We are astro lovers, we appreciate also other cultivars (not only kikko forms), but we collect also other genera. The coahuilense form is called "hakuran", but we do not know the difference from "konpeitu", do you know?

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PostSubject: Konpeito   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyTue Dec 09, 2008 5:27 am

Carlo & Daniele

All my plants have been germinated from seeds.
"hakuran" is the Japanese name of coahuilense.
haku (white)
ran (myriostigma)
Kikko form has three names related degree of roughness.
Shallow one: rokkotu (costae)
Normal one: kikkou (tortoiseshell)
Extreme one: konpeito ( a star shaped Japanese candy)

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hanazono i have send you a pm! Wink
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Carlo & Daniele



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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyTue Dec 09, 2008 9:29 am

Thanks for the infos hanazono!
Next days we will post some other photos!
I tought rokkutsu was also the japanese name for the 6-ribs asterias, is it right?
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyWed Dec 10, 2008 5:57 am

Carlo & Daniele
Rokkotu is not 6-ribs asterias.
6-ribs asterias is called as rokuryou kabuto.
roku (six)
ryou (ribs)
kabuto (asterias)
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Hanazono wrote:
Carlo & Daniele

All my plants have been germinated from seeds.
"hakuran" is the Japanese name of coahuilense.
haku (white)
ran (myriostigma)
Kikko form has three names related degree of roughness.
Shallow one: rokkotu (costae)
Normal one: kikkou (tortoiseshell)
Extreme one: konpeito ( a star shaped Japanese candy)

Hanazono



Heheh here we go ..... KONPEITO Candy.

Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Konpeito_by_kamisuka
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Thats so funny.
If I ever make a new cactus hybrids, I'm gonna name it after my wife.
Or my dog, I haven't decided yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko   Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko EmptyFri Dec 12, 2008 5:09 am

Cool! Some cultivar names are really strange, we do not know the name is taken from candies!

Here there is another form of coahuilense with very deep tubercles:

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