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Carlo & Daniele
Number of posts : 105 Location : Italy Registration date : 2008-11-28
| Subject: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:35 am | |
| Hello! We'd like to show you some of our myrio kikko, the forms of this cultivar are really various: myrio kikko koh-yo yellow myrio kikko nudum (and bit 'hakuun') myrio onzuka kikko ball coahuilense kikko carlo & daniele | |
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MichaelCactus Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 293 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2008-06-24
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:05 pm | |
| TFS Im in love with the cultivar's you Italians are so lucky to have Would you be able to maybe post a photo of your Digitostigma i can see in the background? | |
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lewis avid contributor & moderator
Number of posts : 862 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2008-05-07
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:19 pm | |
| amazing! i really love the first pic, its like a rainbow in the background with all those variegated astros etc. yes i would like to see the grafted digitostigma as well, its got tubercles going everywhere. | |
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Carlo & Daniele
Number of posts : 105 Location : Italy Registration date : 2008-11-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:01 am | |
| Thanks guys! Here there is a photo of the plant flowering at the end of september. | |
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lewis avid contributor & moderator
Number of posts : 862 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2008-05-07
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:41 am | |
| Beautiful!! ps. you have an amazing collection in the background of your pics!! nice work. | |
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Carlo & Daniele
Number of posts : 105 Location : Italy Registration date : 2008-11-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:47 am | |
| Thanks lewis! That part of the greenhouse is only with grafted cacti. | |
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MichaelCactus Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 293 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2008-06-24
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:16 am | |
| Omg, your collection is even more amazeing! The digi is awsome, id probly kill just for a tubericle off it. | |
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lewis avid contributor & moderator
Number of posts : 862 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2008-05-07
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:27 pm | |
| Carlo & Daniele, do you have any experience grafting tubercles of Digitostigma? | |
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Vicki Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 177 Location : Victoria Registration date : 2008-07-23
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:29 pm | |
| That digi is unreal what a weird and wonderful plant | |
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Carlo & Daniele
Number of posts : 105 Location : Italy Registration date : 2008-11-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:21 pm | |
| @ lewis: we do not have a big experience on grafting tubercles (we are a bit lazy and made only few attempts...). This type of grafting was made after the discover of this new plant, in order to develop fast this new plant. But with this method you can obtain clones of the same plant. We prefered to buy some grafted plants and obtain seeds from them, since own roots plants are different clones and much fascinating that grafted plants. The best stock for this plant seems to be ferocactus glaucescens. The plant in the picture is grafted on echinopsis. @ MichaelCactus and Vicki: thanks! | |
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Carlo & Daniele
Number of posts : 105 Location : Italy Registration date : 2008-11-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:12 am | |
| Some another myrio kikko forms: kikko nudum grafted on pereskiopsis: a form of onzuka kikko, always on pereskiopsis; it's still quite small but it's growing with quite regular ribs now coahuilense kikko with 4 ribs carlo & daniele | |
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trigonus Admin & Cactus Fiend
Number of posts : 879 Location : coastal NSW 1°C - 40°C Registration date : 2008-01-23
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:05 pm | |
| I love them all. Makes me want to move to Italy! | |
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KanJe watchman
Number of posts : 393 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2008-06-24
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:32 pm | |
| Carlo & Daniele, is it more common amongst collectors in Italy to sell plant already grafted. Also, are there many collectors in Italy that you know of? Like a society or something like that. | |
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Carlo & Daniele
Number of posts : 105 Location : Italy Registration date : 2008-11-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:39 am | |
| Hello KanJe, grafted cacti are common amon astro cultivar, since grafting is the only way to develop fastly these uncommn plants. Other plants are usually on own roots. About societies, on the web there are some forums, for example: http://www.cactus-co.com/forum/index.php http://www.panarottocactus.net/phpBB2/index.php carlo & daniele | |
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Vicki Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 177 Location : Victoria Registration date : 2008-07-23
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:48 am | |
| The astro photos on the second forum are totally amazing. | |
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Carlo & Daniele
Number of posts : 105 Location : Italy Registration date : 2008-11-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:57 am | |
| It's because it's focused on astrophytums! | |
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Hanazono Astromaniac
Number of posts : 825 Location : SA Registration date : 2008-09-14
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:21 am | |
| Carlo & Daniele It seems your are real Kikko lovers. I also have several forms of kho-yo, kikko nudum. The attached photo is similar to you plant, attached photo on 28th Nov. This one is red color and called "Red Bean". This plant was grafted but I degrafted, diameter is around 15 cm. Since plant is matured, not turend color in winter but the gene of Red Bean is remained. Your kikko form of coahuilense is very nice. We call that form as "Konpeito" and I think it has not been in Australia yet. | |
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Carlo & Daniele
Number of posts : 105 Location : Italy Registration date : 2008-11-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:34 am | |
| Thanks Hanazono, you have very good plants! Are your plants principally from seeds? We are astro lovers, we appreciate also other cultivars (not only kikko forms), but we collect also other genera. The coahuilense form is called "hakuran", but we do not know the difference from "konpeitu", do you know? Thanks carlo & daniele | |
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Hanazono Astromaniac
Number of posts : 825 Location : SA Registration date : 2008-09-14
| Subject: Konpeito Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:27 am | |
| Carlo & Daniele
All my plants have been germinated from seeds. "hakuran" is the Japanese name of coahuilense. haku (white) ran (myriostigma) Kikko form has three names related degree of roughness. Shallow one: rokkotu (costae) Normal one: kikkou (tortoiseshell) Extreme one: konpeito ( a star shaped Japanese candy)
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cortona
Number of posts : 69 Location : central italy tuscany cortona Registration date : 2008-11-04
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:39 am | |
| hanazono i have send you a pm! | |
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Carlo & Daniele
Number of posts : 105 Location : Italy Registration date : 2008-11-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:29 am | |
| Thanks for the infos hanazono! Next days we will post some other photos! I tought rokkutsu was also the japanese name for the 6-ribs asterias, is it right? | |
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Hanazono Astromaniac
Number of posts : 825 Location : SA Registration date : 2008-09-14
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:57 am | |
| Carlo & Daniele Rokkotu is not 6-ribs asterias. 6-ribs asterias is called as rokuryou kabuto. roku (six) ryou (ribs) kabuto (asterias) Hanazono | |
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Hellonasty Admin
Number of posts : 1824 Location : NSW Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:58 pm | |
| - Hanazono wrote:
- Carlo & Daniele
All my plants have been germinated from seeds. "hakuran" is the Japanese name of coahuilense. haku (white) ran (myriostigma) Kikko form has three names related degree of roughness. Shallow one: rokkotu (costae) Normal one: kikkou (tortoiseshell) Extreme one: konpeito ( a star shaped Japanese candy)
Hanazono Heheh here we go ..... KONPEITO Candy. | |
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KanJe watchman
Number of posts : 393 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2008-06-24
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:25 am | |
| Thats so funny. If I ever make a new cactus hybrids, I'm gonna name it after my wife. Or my dog, I haven't decided yet. | |
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Carlo & Daniele
Number of posts : 105 Location : Italy Registration date : 2008-11-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum myriostigma cv. kikko Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:09 am | |
| Cool! Some cultivar names are really strange, we do not know the name is taken from candies! Here there is another form of coahuilense with very deep tubercles:
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