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PostSubject: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptyThu Oct 09, 2008 10:47 pm

OK... I have a 2yo retusus that i am wanting to graft to a pach. I actually have two, but until i get some bigger ones, i haven't got the balls to put both of them on the line...

2 questions.

First... is it the same as grafting a loph to the pachs, ie, humidity for a little bit, and some pressure to the scion (usually a stocking stretched over it and held fast by the spines on the pach). I'm pretty good at grafting the lophs to trichs now, even if i say so myself... Smile

Second. If i graft the root of the ario, where do i have to cut the ario to ensure that the base will also pup?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated Smile

Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptyFri Oct 10, 2008 1:27 am

follow this process. http://kadasgarden.com/grafting2.html

that's how i graft them....one thing i like to do though is also bevel the scion just a little bit. otherwise, it works great.

i also personally dislike weights, stockings etc....vinyl/electrical tape is the way to go imo!
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptySat Oct 11, 2008 9:01 pm

Cheers...

now i need to do it... will keep this updated. Fingers crossed for the ario... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptySat Oct 11, 2008 10:49 pm

Yeah gilligan I want to know how it goes. Is it possible for you to get a pic of the Ario before you graft so it gives us all an idea of the size, if it works well it gives us a bit of a pictorial. Have been considering doing the same thing with some smaller seedlings. Best of luck.

Keen to see some results.
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptyMon Oct 13, 2008 12:26 am

here is a pic of one the rough same age (2-3cm) but using myrtle. i didnt graft the base though, but it should work.
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptyFri Nov 21, 2008 2:35 pm

ok... graft done Ario retusus to a Trich spach...

I want some good vibes sent this way for the little 'un...

here are the pics

spach being grafted
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ario retusus being grafted
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Final product
Grafting 2yo arios to trichs Ariore10

Touch wood. It's in humidity chamber now... We'll see how it goes in a week or so...
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptyFri Nov 21, 2008 6:14 pm

Excellent gilligan. Mega good vibes coming your way. Let us know how it all goes. Looks like you did it well though so should work i'm thinking.
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptyFri Nov 21, 2008 6:16 pm

Very cool. Good luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptyFri Dec 05, 2008 8:27 pm

well, looks like it took!


Will get some pics over the weekend - going cray diving tomorrow, so hopefully will be cooking up a feast tomorrow night, too busy for forums. lol...
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptyWed Dec 24, 2008 9:13 pm

Fantastic - got any photos Gilligan?
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptyFri Jan 02, 2009 6:02 pm

Finally - the pic... The new growth can be seen in the lighter colours of the tubercles in the centre... Woohoo!

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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptySat Jan 03, 2009 5:52 pm

Can I ask Gillian, why haven't you aligned the scion with the vascular ring of the stock?
Wouldn't it be better that way?
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptySat Jan 03, 2009 6:39 pm

i've got half of the vascular rings of both stock and scion aligned - you can see that the stock ring aligns with the centre of the scion ... i do most of my grafts like this, as i've found that trying to align them fully will often result in the graft not taking for some reason...

Check out kada's grafting tek, says something similar about the alignments...
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptySun Jan 04, 2009 12:10 am

It's interesting as I haven't been told of this detail by anyone else.
It would explain some of the results that I've been getting with a graft I did recently.

Kada's thread explains it pretty clearly though. I'll try and re-graft and see if it makes a change.

I'm still trying to work up my grafting skills but your one looks pretty healthy Gilligan, nice work. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptySun Jan 04, 2009 12:17 am

Grin... all i can say is try, try again...

But not if you don't have enough to try with... or you have only one cactus in the collection and balls of steel... Smile

i've just found that a lot of it is trial and error... Luckily a lot of the time, the components are relatively forgiving...
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PostSubject: Re: Grafting 2yo arios to trichs   Grafting 2yo arios to trichs EmptySun Jan 04, 2009 12:23 pm

The way gilligan does it with the offset scion is the preferred way to graft. It helps reduce chances of the union not taking since it is almost impossible to not have the vascular rings touching.

The vascular rings MUST touch.
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