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+5shortly Hellonasty Lachy Darren mutant 9 posters |
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mutant Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 286 Location : Greece Registration date : 2010-01-10
| Subject: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:36 pm | |
| This could be a sticky thread where we could share experience and knowledge about whether certain genuses, species and strains are self fertile or they need a partner, a second plant in order to produce seeds... and how successful the pollinations tend to be...
So, for starters, I would like to ask if Strombocactus [esperanza, red flower, grafted] , Mammillaria luethyi, and Notocactus genus [for starters] are self-fertile.
If strombocactus is not self-fertile with witch genuses could I experiment to hybridise, any ideas? Like with some Turbinicarpus {I got lophophoroides with a bud] . Maybe Stenocactus too??? | |
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Darren Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 352 Location : adelaide but moving to monbulk Registration date : 2009-09-07
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:29 pm | |
| i am pretty sure that notocactus (parodia) is not self fertile! | |
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Lachy Moderator
Number of posts : 733 Location : Langwarrin Registration date : 2008-04-05
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:21 pm | |
| There is a list floating around on the web that has all this info. I haven't seen it for a while, but it must be out there somewhere. | |
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Hellonasty Admin
Number of posts : 1824 Location : NSW Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:55 pm | |
| Yup Lachy is right and this should answer most questions. It is pretty accurate as far as I can tell. It is mostly in French but you get the idea, the first column has an S or an F.
S =Sterile
F = Fertile
http://lapsyserre.free.fr/psy_liste/SPSY2K4.doc | |
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Lachy Moderator
Number of posts : 733 Location : Langwarrin Registration date : 2008-04-05
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:39 pm | |
| Ahh, you legend! That's the one! | |
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Hellonasty Admin
Number of posts : 1824 Location : NSW Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:55 am | |
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mutant Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 286 Location : Greece Registration date : 2010-01-10
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:24 am | |
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Hellonasty Admin
Number of posts : 1824 Location : NSW Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:55 pm | |
| Here is a short list from the link with some of the more popular species>
As above an "s" after the name = Self Sterile an "f" = Self Fertile
S/F = It could be "possible" either way, I think.
ARIOCARPUS agavoides [DH 1090/90] s agavoides > Tula/TAMPS/Mexique [GK 1230/90] s fissuratus [SW 9004/95] s furfuraceus [GK 41/91] s kotschoubeyanus [DH] s kotschoubeyanus ssp. sladkovskyi > Rio Verde/SLP/Mexique [GK 1683/97] s kotschoubeyanus v. albiflorus [DH/92] s kotschoubeyanus v. albiflorus [NR/94] s kotschoubeyanus v. albiflorus [DH 1007/96] s kotschoubeyanus v. albiflorus SB 1827 [MG 31.2/96] s kotschoubeyanus v. elephantidens s kotschoubeyanus v. macdowellii [SW 9008/91] s retusus ssp. pectinatus "HO 732" > Rio Verde/SLP/Mexique [GK 48/96] s scaphirostris [DH] s trigonus [GK 45/90] s
ASTROPHYTUM asterias s asterias > Gonzales/TAMPS/Mexique [GK 85/95] s asterias > Gonzales/TAMPS/Mexique [GK 85/96] s asterias Super Kabuto [DH 993/96] s asterias v. nudum [GK 1895/97] s capricorne cv. Crassispinoides [DH 990/97] s capricorne v. minor [GK 71/90] s coahuilense SB 1474 [MG 56.3/97] s myriostigma [U 607/93 pro parte] s myriostigma [NR/89] s myriostigma SB 262 [MG 58/98] s myriostigma cv.Onzuka [DH 995/97] s myriostigma petites fleurs [JPP/96] s/f myriostigma v. columnare [DH 413/98] s myriostigma v. columnare [DH 420/97] s myriostigma v. quadricostatum [U 607/93 pro parte] s myriostigma v. quadricostatum [DH 419/97] s myriostigma v. strongylogonum SB 126 [MG 63/95] s myriostigma v. tricostatum n.n. [DH] s tulense [JPP/97] s
AZTEKIUM ritteri [U/94] f CINTIA knizei s knizei KK 1768 [ELK/99] s
COPIAPOA barquitensis [DH 900/98] s barquitensis s barquitensis FR 654 [MG 83/97] s/f esmeraldana [DH 994/90] s esmeraldana UN 672A [MG 85.9/98] s grandiflora [DH 1123/97] f humilis FK 35/77 [MG 85.1/98] s humilis FR 464 [MG 85.2/98] s humilis AdB 2.44 > Paposo/Chili [GPS/94] f hypogaea "peau de lezard" [DH/99] f/s hypogaea "peau de lezard" Buining/Diers [WK/97] s hypogaea longs mammelons, sans aiguillons [DH/00] f/s laui L 891 > Esmeralda/Chili [GC/97 (OR)] f laui peu laineux [VC/92] f laui très laineux [ELK/93] f longispina [AI 1020/91] s maritima KK 1709 s mollicula [DH 899/95] f montana [GK 255/90] s montana FR 522 [GK 255/96] s olivana L 816 [SS 40/97] s pendicolor [RF/90] s sp. > El Cobre/Chili [DH] s tenuissima [GK 256/91] s tocopillana issu de graines de Walter Jung [BBu/00] f vallenarensis [DH 1002/90] s
EPITHELANTHA bokei SB 416 [MG 362/98] s chihuahuensis [GK 1977/97] s dickisoniae [GK 1974/95] s fungifera [JLo/96] f fungifera "texana" [VC/92] f greggii SB 358 [MG 366/97] s micromeris L 737 [U 4962/98] f micromeris L 749a [U 4974/97] f micromeris SB 1327 [MG 359.2/97] f micromeris SB 256 [MG 358/97] f micromeris SB 56 [MG 354/97] f micromeris AdB 3.9.3 > Oliver Lee/NM/USA [GPS/94] f micromeris HO 24 > Rayones/NL/Mexique [HO/96] f micromeris (ex bokei) [GK 444/91] f micromeris (ex. rufispina) [GK 447/97] f micromeris (neomexicana) [GK 446/95] f pachyrhiza [DH 1078/91] s pachyrhiza v. elongata [SW 4148/96] s polycephala [GK 449/96] s unguispina [GK 1978/97] s
ECHINOPSIS 201 ancistrophora [AI 107/88] s 203 ancistrophora MN 63 [SS 121/97] s 204 ancistrophora MN 201 tube floral court [SS 122/97] s 205 ancistrophora v. hamatispina JL 28 [SS 124/97] s 2013 eyriesii KK 1474 [MG 346.62/99] s 206 kermesina [GK 408/89] s obrepanda [RI/97] s obrepanda [GK 415/89] s obrepanda v. calliantholilacina FR 776 [MG 349.31/98] s obrepanda v. millaresi [DH 66/98] s polyancistra [GK 419/89] s polyancistra "N16" x F1 back crossing [GK 419/89 pro parte] s sp. fleurs rose [DH 903/90 pro parte] s subdenudata L 943 [MG 351.1/99] s
GYMNOCALYCIUM sous-genre Gymnocalycium alboareolatum P 220 [GK 3433/95] s alboareolatum (kieslingii v. castaneum) P 220 [MG 469.4/95] f alboareolatum (kieslingii) ZJ 111 [MG 469.38/97] f amerhauseri STO 229 [ELK/97] s andreae MN 80 [SS 225/97] s/ms andreae v. albiflorum [MG 454.02/95] s andreae v. grandiflorum [GK 2023/90] s baldianum [SW 6242/95] s baldianum P 127 [SS 227/97] s berchtii LB 320 [LB/98] f/fs bruchii s/ms bruchii v. brigittae P 214 [SS 234/97] fs/ms bruchii v. enorme [JL/96] s/ms calochlorum [U 504/92] s calochlorum JL 109 [JL/97] s calochlorum P 109b [SS 235/97] s chubutense [DH 113/92] s doppianum [MG 464.03/96] s erinaceum [GK 4050/93] s gibbosum [GK 601/89] f/ms guanchinense [U 311/92] s hossei JL 12 [JL/96] s leptanthum [SW 6260/95] s neuhuberi GN 89-77-357 aiguillons jaunes [ELK/97] s neuhuberi GN 89-356 aiguillons noirs [ELK/97] s neuhuberi (doute) VS 8 [MG 476.423/98] s odoratum [U 2537/92] s parvulum [DH 203/90] s platense (leptanthum) [MG 481/97] s platense v. ventanicola [SS 345/98] s schatzlianum P 93 [MG 486.5/95] s schroederianum v. boessii [U 4203/91] s sigelianum [MG 488.9/93] f/ms sp. B 149 [GK 4039/92] s striglianum [MG 490.26/93] s sutterianum [CF 9124/90] s taningaense P 212 [GK 4057/97] s uebelmaniannum [GK 4032/93] s
OBREGONIA denegrii s
LOPHOPHORA 630 caespitosa f 631 decipiens [DH 1078/93] s 2186 diffusa s 2187 diffusa [U 2979/92] s 2189 fricii > San Pedro/COA/Mexique [GK 8833/97] s 632 texensis [GK 865/93] f 627 viridescens (diffusa v. koehresii) [GK 2809/96] s | |
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shortly
Number of posts : 127 Location : SEQ Registration date : 2008-06-28
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:52 am | |
| Does anyone know if Lemaireocereus/Stenocereus thurberi & marginatus are self fertile? | |
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xiaofang
Number of posts : 1 Location : hefei Registration date : 2010-11-16
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:04 pm | |
| If strombocactus is not self-fertile with witch genuses could I experiment to hybridise, any ideas? Like with some Turbinicarpus {I got lophophoroides with a bud] Maybe Stenocactus too??? | |
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mutant Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 286 Location : Greece Registration date : 2010-01-10
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:20 am | |
| with Strombocactus, one could experiment with Lophophora, Leuchtenbergia, Obregonia... maybe. Turbinicarpus too maybe. doesn't hurt to experiment. | |
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SneakyCuttlefish Moderator
Number of posts : 705 Location : FNQ Registration date : 2012-12-11
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:36 pm | |
| I think pediocactus knowltonii is self fertile. I only have one grafted specimen and it has produced two fruits. Unless there's another one near by. (highly unlikely) | |
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Hanazono Astromaniac
Number of posts : 825 Location : SA Registration date : 2008-09-14
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:49 pm | |
| There is a well known hybrid in relation to Strombocactus.
Father: Turbinicarpus alonsoi Mother: Strombocactus disciformis
I do not have the plant but have seen the photo. | |
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Katu
Number of posts : 20 Location : Atherton Tablelands Registration date : 2014-04-12
| Subject: Re: Are such and such species self-fertile??? Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:43 pm | |
| That lists awesome HN, cheers! | |
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