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MichaelCactus Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 293 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2008-06-24
| | | | trigonus Admin & Cactus Fiend
Number of posts : 879 Location : coastal NSW 1°C - 40°C Registration date : 2008-01-23
| Subject: Re: Forgotten Tricho Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:07 pm | |
| Looks like T. grandiflorus to me. | |
| | | MichaelCactus Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 293 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2008-06-24
| Subject: Re: Forgotten Tricho Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:20 pm | |
| Huascha was the name i had, i remember once i looked up grandiflorus and saw the synonym. | |
| | | trigonus Admin & Cactus Fiend
Number of posts : 879 Location : coastal NSW 1°C - 40°C Registration date : 2008-01-23
| Subject: Re: Forgotten Tricho Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:41 pm | |
| Yep I agree T. huascha. aka...damned taxonomists | |
| | | prier
Number of posts : 107 Location : melbourne Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Forgotten Tricho Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:20 am | |
| There is a bunch of red flowered Trichos, could you please post a photo of the body of the plant.
Isn't huascha the species name if the plant is in Echinopsis? I think your plant looks similar to T. huasca, which is thin branched, and slightly longered spined than T. grandiflora. | |
| | | prier
Number of posts : 107 Location : melbourne Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Forgotten Tricho Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:21 am | |
| Scrap that last post.
I spent all of my ciggie breaks at work today researching this and I've confused myself terribly. sorry.
I'm going to write a decent kinda long post about this later. my brain isn't quite up to it yet. | |
| | | Kada Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 204 Location : International Registration date : 2008-04-05
| Subject: Re: Forgotten Tricho Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:56 pm | |
| t. huascha is now E. huacha......along with many others. your not alone being confused as to the reasoning behind it all | |
| | | lewis avid contributor & moderator
Number of posts : 862 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2008-05-07
| Subject: Re: Forgotten Tricho Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:37 pm | |
| Sorry, i was the one who gave Michael the name of Trichocereus huascha for this plant and therefore am partly to blame for the subsequent resulting confusion. it seems that you can use T/E.huascha as a blanket coverall name for just about any red flowered Trichocereus, its almost as vague as the common name of 'Red Torch Cactus' lol. I have the same plant as Michael's pictured above, mine is labelled as T.huascha but i guess that doesn't mean much. This is not T.grandiflora/grandiflorus for the reasons prier outlined (ie. longer spines, thinner stems). wait, T.grandiflora is now a synonym of E.huascha if you want to be up to date with the current nomenclature. argh! look how many darn synonyms this poor plant has:
Echinopsis pecheretiana, Trichocereus grandiflorus, Lobivia hyalacantha, Acanthocalycium hyalacanthum, Helianthocereus hyalacanthus, Echinopsis hyalacantha, Trichocereus rowleyi, Pseudolobivia pelecyrhachis var. lobivioides, Trichocereus lobivioides, Helianthocereus pecheretianus, Trichocereus huascha var. pecheretianus, Lobivia purpureominiata, Echinopsis rowleyi, Chamaecereus grandiflorus, Echinopsis lobivioides, Trichocereus andalgalensis, Helianthocereus grandiflorus, Pseudolobivia lobivioides, Lobivia huascha, Trichocereus huascha, Cereus huascha, Cereus andalgalensis, Helianthocereus andalgalensis, Lobivia andalgalensis, Helianthocereus huascha var. auricolor, Trichocereus auricolor, Trichocereus andalgalensis var. auricolor, Trichocereus catamarcensis, Lobivia grandiflora, Helianthocereus huascha http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Cactaceae/Echinopsis_huascha.html
These synonyms include both past names for what is the same plant as well as encompassing what were once considered separate species in their own right (e.g. T.grandiflora). these confuse growers, almost as badly as this post by myself which probably does even more so. i look forward to reading the imminent post by my friend prier who knows much more about Trichocereus who will be able to provide much necessary clarification. In retrospect you can call a plant whatever you want, thats a nice Pseudolobivia lobivioides you got there Michael. | |
| | | prier
Number of posts : 107 Location : melbourne Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Forgotten Tricho Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:51 pm | |
| yeah thanks lewis. Once in Echinopsis, nearly all the red flowered trichos become E. huascha. At work we were calling this plant T.huasca as opposed to T.grandiflora.
I went through all the classic texts and even the new cactus lexicon. There's doesn't seem to be any reference to this plant anywhere. My guess is that it's now a sub species of E.huascha. Once I get my camera back, I'll post some photos of my plants for comparison.
Someone needs to write a good book about trichos, including all the extra spiny ones trout ignores. | |
| | | lewis avid contributor & moderator
Number of posts : 862 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2008-05-07
| Subject: Re: Forgotten Tricho Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:00 pm | |
| - prier wrote:
- Someone needs to write a good book about trichos, including all the extra spiny ones trout ignores.
I think you just volunteered. I look forward to reading it. | |
| | | trigonus Admin & Cactus Fiend
Number of posts : 879 Location : coastal NSW 1°C - 40°C Registration date : 2008-01-23
| Subject: Re: Forgotten Tricho Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:56 pm | |
| - lewis wrote:
- prier wrote:
- Someone needs to write a good book about trichos, including all the extra spiny ones trout ignores.
I think you just volunteered. I look forward to reading it. Likewise I thoroughly enjoyed Trout's notes on San Pedro, though it would be interesting to read about some of the other trichos out there too. Actually that reminds me of something myself and prier were working on together a while back... | |
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