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San Rainbow
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PostSubject: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptyFri Jun 13, 2008 8:21 pm

Hi all, would any one have a list of cacti species that do self pollinate and ones that don't...

Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptyFri Jun 13, 2008 9:39 pm

Most don't and those that do yield more seed from cross pollinated flowers. That said if there is a list available anywhere of all cacti I would really like to have aread of it. It's a good idea San.

Note: Not sure if this is the right place for this topic though, might be better suited to the propagation forum as it directly relates to cactus fertility and breeding? Was just a thought.

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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptyFri Jun 13, 2008 11:34 pm

There is a list of self-fertile plants, however I've just switched computers and don't have the link anymore. Give me a day or so and I think I can find it.

From memory, it was not in english (maybe french or german?), however latin binomials don't change and the rest was pretty easy to figure out.
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 7:55 am

probably dose suit the propagation forum better trig, sweet lachy look forward to it! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 11:25 am

here you go:
http://lapsyserre.free.fr/psy_liste/SPSY2K4.doc
Wink
some serious work was put into this.
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 12:58 pm

cheers lewis!
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 3:26 pm

its probably the same one that Lachy refers to, it is in a different language but you can still make sense of it.
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 4:06 pm

Yep its good I have had that one saved for ages Smile
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 5:06 pm

Thanks for that
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 5:28 pm

Looks good, though haven't had a chance to have a decent look. What language is it in. I might try and translate it to make it easier for everyone here.

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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 5:33 pm

Something I have been wanting for ever!!! Thanks a bunch for that. Now to translate it all to cactophile...
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 5:35 pm

Is it French??
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 5:47 pm

Looks like Francais...

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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 5:57 pm

Oui,
so glad I can speak it.

Bonjour mon catcaphiles
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 6:02 pm

Cool so get traslating the bit at the bottom...........Oops forgot my manners PLEASE!!!!!


Colonne autosterile/fertile

s : autosterile, plantes hermaphrodites (allogames)

f : autofertile, plantes hermaphrodites (autogames)

sm : stérilité mâle observée chez certaines plantes

sf : stérilité femelle observée chez certaines plantes

Différents types peuvent parfois cohabiter dans la même espèce.
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 6:02 pm

I can't lol but I can translate it...Wink


oooohhhh cryptical.

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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 6:34 pm

+ 1 more that need help... Suspect

cal, please
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySat Jun 14, 2008 7:49 pm

Correct me in I'm wrong - but its something like this:

Probably not quite right:

different types are variable and can be associated with the same species

can sometimes grow/cohabit in/within simultaneously / within species


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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySun Jun 15, 2008 1:37 pm

Okay,
I've converted the french word document into an australian excel spreadsheet that is completely in English.

But to highlight what they were:

s : autosterile, plants hermaphrodites
f : autofertile, plants hermaphrodites
sm : Male infertility observed in certain plants
sf : Female infertility observed in certain plants
Various types can sometimes live in the same location.

I have also converted the flowering times into "english" eg 1 a 2 has become January - February. They are currently set as Northern Hemisphere times, so I am converting them to Southern Hemisphere. I am going to add six months to each month but was wondering what does everyone think.




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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySun Jun 15, 2008 1:52 pm

Way to go calycium.................you're a legend Wink
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySun Jun 15, 2008 1:59 pm

sweet cal, love your work!

upload away Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySun Jun 15, 2008 4:02 pm

Here is a link to the file - will update it so that you can filter on types soon.


I have another idea that it will give you a list of what is going to flower based on todays month.


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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySun Jun 15, 2008 4:55 pm

Excellent!!

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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySun Jun 15, 2008 4:57 pm

Brilliant is another word for it cheers
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PostSubject: Re: birds and the bees   birds and the bees EmptySun Jun 15, 2008 5:07 pm

happy days!

this forum rocks!

Cheers all Wink

PS: Calycium has any I told you lately how much you rule :king: ? well... big time mate, thank you very much!
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