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PostSubject: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptySun Feb 27, 2011 8:57 pm

How awesome are Astrophytum ? I just love them Smile


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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyMon Feb 28, 2011 12:01 am

Great collection HN. How old are the grafts?
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyMon Feb 28, 2011 3:43 pm

They are all different but to give you an idea the first one is from this season grafted in december 2010. The third one the "Onzuka" was grafted in March 2009, and degrafted at the beginning of this season.

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyMon Feb 28, 2011 6:24 pm

Good growth rates! You've got a good had at grafting.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyTue Mar 01, 2011 3:55 am

The first kikko koh-yo and the other white kikko are super, but we also like the two fuku!
Compliments

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyTue Mar 01, 2011 11:59 am

Thanks guys I appreciate that.

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PostSubject: Few more   Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyWed Mar 02, 2011 12:23 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyWed Mar 02, 2011 3:17 pm

Very Nice! Beautiful.
I'm loving the hakuun?(the ones with splotchy patches) And some of the fukuryu are pretty special too!
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyWed Mar 02, 2011 3:25 pm

Yes Hakuun is the name given for any with that splotchy white markings I can't remember the meaning, something about clouds or the sky I think. Hanazono will probably know.


How about a few more ? why not.


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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyWed Mar 02, 2011 3:28 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 5:40 am

G'morning Hellonasty

Hakuun means white clouds.
I think 4-ribs Shimairi Onzuka is very good.
Khoyo starts turning color but seasons of best color will be winter and spring.

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyThu Mar 03, 2011 11:50 am

Thanks Hanazono,

I was wondering what season was best for colour, they just change colour randomly sometimes.

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyFri Mar 04, 2011 12:16 am

You have some truly amazing plants there HN. I'm especially fond of the 4 rib ones. Are they from seed which is supposed to produce 4 rib plants, or is it just luck? Where do you get your seed from?
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyFri Mar 04, 2011 12:42 am

I like a lot too 4-ribs Onzuka!
What does it mean Shimairi?

Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyFri Mar 04, 2011 8:50 am

HN
Khoyo will be the best color in winter and spring.
We keep cactus under a micro-climate and a khoyo will start to change the color anytime when it thinks antumn is comming.
khoyo needs 4 seasons, natural or simulated.

Carlo and Daniele
Shimairi means "with striped pattern".
You can see brown stripes starting to appear on the top of Onzuka.
Compared to a normal Onzuka, the word of Shimairi is added if the plant had striped pattern.

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyFri Mar 04, 2011 11:59 am

Thanks for clarifying the meaning of the names Hanazono. That sort of information very difficult to find and I think understanding what the masters that bred these plants had in mind is much easier when you know what the names mean.
There are so many names that I have wondered about the meaning of, Hakujo, koh-yo, banjaku, hakugaku etc. we need a dictionary of translated cultivar names!
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyFri Mar 04, 2011 6:47 pm

Thanks Hanazono.


Tripsis, I find you generally get 4 ribbed plants when you plant 3 ribbed seeds Smile Be very wary of anyone selling seeds which state 3 ribs, this form is very unstable and will grow extra ribs at any given time. From my experience even with very good seeds you will get 1 in 10 three ribbed plants and nearly all of them will form extra ribs eventually. I get most of my seed through trades etc from collectors.

Crypto, I think the Cultivar dictionary would be awesome !

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyFri Mar 04, 2011 8:22 pm

HN

There are 5 types of 3-ribbed myriostigma.
One of 5 types, Old Yoshinaga type tends to increase number of ribs eventually. I am not sure what type you have.
On the other hand, a type tends to reduce number of ribs and becomes 2-ribbed plant rarely.

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyFri Mar 04, 2011 8:56 pm

Really great plants, thank you für showing them!
I also like Astrophytum Cultivars, but I don`t collect them so long, so i don`t have to much plants! But i buy this year some new one.

I can show you some of my A. cultivars:

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a. onzuka


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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyFri Mar 04, 2011 9:20 pm

cryptocarpa and HN

There are so many Japanese origin Astrophytum cultivars.
asterias: 500
myriostigma: 250
others: 100
I do not know how many cultivars are overseas (Australia) currently.
I can tell you specific ones eg
Hakujo: "white lines" appear on the top of ribs on myriostigma, ornatum and both hybrids
kho-yu: "autumn foliage" turning color in autumn to spring, colors are yellow, orange, red and chocolat
A. myriostigma and related hybrids, M. bocasana and some Ariocarpus show kho-yo
banjyaku: " large rock" the name of hybrids, ornatum x myriostigma
hakugaku: "white mountain"

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptySat Mar 05, 2011 10:08 am

Thanks for the names translations Hanazono I have wondered a long time about some of them.
Echinopsis, you have some nice plants there!
Just wanted to share something that turned up in my seedlings recently. I have couple like this so I plan to graft them and hopefully breed a stable form over the next few years. It's a spiral form onzuka tricostatum that is reverting to Quadricostatum.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptySat Mar 05, 2011 10:41 am

That's incredible crypto! How old is that seedling?
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptyFri Mar 11, 2011 6:05 pm

WOW great plants Echinopsis, I love them.


Really cool Crypto, would love to see a mature plant with that characteristic. Bloody 3 ribbed plants Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptySun Mar 18, 2012 11:07 am

Hanazono wrote:
HN
Khoyo will be the best color in winter and spring.
We keep cactus under a micro-climate and a khoyo will start to change the color anytime when it thinks antumn is comming.
khoyo needs 4 seasons, natural or simulated.

Carlo and Daniele
Shimairi means "with striped pattern".
You can see brown stripes starting to appear on the top of Onzuka.
Compared to a normal Onzuka, the word of Shimairi is added if the plant had striped pattern.

Hanazono

thanks for the info Hanazono, very helpful.
Now I know the right word for brown V-marks on Onzuka.
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PostSubject: Re: Astrophytum Cultivars    Astrophytum Cultivars  EmptySun Mar 25, 2012 8:25 pm

I also love those crested / cultivare / variegated cacti.

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