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cryptocarpa Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 268 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2009-03-14
| Subject: Astrophytum cultivars. Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:36 pm | |
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Lachy Moderator
Number of posts : 733 Location : Langwarrin Registration date : 2008-04-05
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:13 pm | |
| Those are all just magic. | |
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cactuscook Moderator
Number of posts : 737 Location : Adelaide Registration date : 2010-04-29
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:01 pm | |
| Awesome some real beauties there i just love them they would have to be one of my favourites keep up the good work crypto. | |
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Alex
Number of posts : 22 Location : Paraguay Registration date : 2010-11-26
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:28 am | |
| They are very nice and look all so healthy! Congratularions! | |
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Hellonasty Admin
Number of posts : 1824 Location : NSW Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:40 am | |
| Great plants crypto, I know what you mean regarding the varying forms of the same seed batch or cross. I have been growing a heap of cultivars myself and find it frustrating at times. However once you get a plant with really nice form it is all worth it Love those fukuryu and the onzuka kikko look promising, thanks for sharing them. | |
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blowng Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 256 Location : Mellville Registration date : 2008-10-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:09 pm | |
| Wow! nice and healthy! I have only one problem with these Astrophytum hybrids ( I cant seem to get any!) | |
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Hellonasty Admin
Number of posts : 1824 Location : NSW Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:34 pm | |
| I wouldn't like your chances of finding any plants but seed can be obtained easily.....finding good cultivar seed is the problem. | |
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Carlo & Daniele
Number of posts : 105 Location : Italy Registration date : 2008-11-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:16 am | |
| Super results and very good photos! Compliments!
Carlo & Daniele | |
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cryptocarpa Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 268 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2009-03-14
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:53 pm | |
| Yeh I have to agree with HN, the source of seeds is important, but even with an excellent source some forms seem to rarely come true to type. It is safe to assume that the genes that cause these traits are recessive. This means like blue eyes for humans, only kids with two copies of the recessive gene will have blue eyes. If they get a dominant brown eye gene from either parent it is likely that trait will be expressed. With some c.v. forms there is probably more than one gene involved. This is definitely true in the combination c.v such as kikko kohyo and onzuka kikko. Hence these types are particularly rare and it may take a dozen or more seedlings to produce a really nice one. Unfortunately for this reason they will always be rare(sorry blowng!). Even "common" c.vs like tricostatum and onzuka are usually only about 35% true from seed in my experience. Then there are some traits which don't show up untill the plants get bigger...eg if kikko trait shows up when the plant is less that 5cm diameter that is very good. But then other traits like fukuryu seem to get milder with age. The fukuryu in this pic had nice sharp,deep psuedoribs when it was smaller but now it is getting smoother. Having said all that the possible combination and variety is almost endless. And the chance of some really rare things like a tricostatum onzuka kikko or a kohyo fukuryu nudum arising from a cross is always tantalizing. It amazes me that breeding astro c.v has only been going on for a few decades and the pace has really picked up in the last decade. You can only imagine what a century or two will produce. Sometimes there are nice surprises too. These two own root V type kabutos just popped up from a non V cross .(yes that is a grafting knife you hear being sharpened!) | |
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blowng Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 256 Location : Mellville Registration date : 2008-10-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:07 pm | |
| The more I see, the more I must have! Thanks for sharing cryptocarpa... | |
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cortona
Number of posts : 69 Location : central italy tuscany cortona Registration date : 2008-11-04
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:37 pm | |
| simply greath plants cripto! lots of complients from italy! can you give us a tip for a nice seeds surce?
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Hellonasty Admin
Number of posts : 1824 Location : NSW Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:39 pm | |
| Whilst we are on the topic of Astro Cultivars here is a shot from the other day... Astrophytum Asterias CV Red Flower | |
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Carlo & Daniele
Number of posts : 105 Location : Italy Registration date : 2008-11-28
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:31 pm | |
| Very good red colour! Compliments! | |
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Lachy Moderator
Number of posts : 733 Location : Langwarrin Registration date : 2008-04-05
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:05 am | |
| That's a very intense red... most seem to be a paler pink. You've done well. | |
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cryptocarpa Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 268 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2009-03-14
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:49 pm | |
| Yeh that's a really good red. It is very rare to get one so nice! | |
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Hellonasty Admin
Number of posts : 1824 Location : NSW Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:41 am | |
| I have a couple of plants from the same seed batch, one is completely normal (yellow) and the others show this nice colour.
Do you have any flower cultivars Crypto ? besides the red flower. | |
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cryptocarpa Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 268 Location : Melbourne Registration date : 2009-03-14
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:31 am | |
| You are lucky to get more than one that colour in my experience. I have grown many Red Flowers and only one is that nice deep red. Unfortunately it appears to be in fertile too...oh well. Infertility seems to be fairly common with the c.v astros. I don't have any other flower cultivars though I have just germinated some shinshowa out of curiosity. That cultivar is a bit extreme even for my liking but I am sure with time I will learn to love it! | |
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Hellonasty Admin
Number of posts : 1824 Location : NSW Registration date : 2008-04-04
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:17 pm | |
| I had no luck with pollination of the plant above, I will try it again soon but it could also be infertile.
Shinshowa certainly is a strange one, I don't have any, would love to see yours when they mature. | |
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mutant Calm and Collected
Number of posts : 286 Location : Greece Registration date : 2010-01-10
| Subject: Re: Astrophytum cultivars. Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:18 am | |
| a wealth of imformation, thank you very much for sharing cryptocarpa
awesome red flower asterias too HN | |
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