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watertrade
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PostSubject: grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides   grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides EmptyWed Dec 10, 2008 8:08 pm

two very very small Turbinicarpus lophophoroides which show no pigment. they have some pale siblings too.

I will be away for a couple of days - how long do you think I have ? these are about 2 weeks old.



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PostSubject: Re: grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides   grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides EmptyWed Dec 10, 2008 8:13 pm

Yes they look albino. There are two options, it will either die in a week or so unless grafted, or it will begin to photosynthesize and turn green. You don't have long Smile

Now looks like the best time to graft.
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PostSubject: Re: grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides   grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides EmptyWed Dec 10, 2008 8:23 pm

I need smaller fingers - I will be back in 4 days so will see what has happened in that time Question

I have been looking at them for a while thinking.. 'that rock looks like a seedling... cool' Rolling Eyes

do you think Hylocereus would be the best option? pereskopsis?
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PostSubject: Re: grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides   grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides EmptyWed Dec 10, 2008 8:36 pm

Definetly Pereskiopsis !!
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I'm really excited to see your results WT.
Be sure to keep us updated.
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PostSubject: Re: grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides   grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides EmptySat Dec 13, 2008 1:10 am

pereskiopsis...no messing around with things like that Smile hylo is more touchy and easier to die with seedlings i think.

the other 3 look promising for variegated as well Smile
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PostSubject: Re: grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides   grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides EmptySun Dec 14, 2008 8:58 am

dont want to be.... a black cat but usualy the withe seedling usualy are unviable! and dye realy soon, i have try to graft several tyme some similar seedling(withe) born from a cross of capricorne var senilis aura but every time it have realy big problem, the variegated ones that have yellow and green to have the best chances!
finger crossed for your seedling!
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PostSubject: Re: grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides   grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides EmptyMon Dec 15, 2008 11:00 pm

I just grafted the two pure white seedlings and one of the
'off white' onto Pereskiopsis. the other off whites I will leave untill they are a little bigger.

Thanks for the tips and good wishes. I hope at least one of them
takes Smile




while looking over my other seedlings I noticed two Ariocarpus with suspicious
colouring.... Very Happy





grafty graft graft !
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PostSubject: Re: grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides   grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides EmptyTue Dec 16, 2008 11:49 am

I've only done a few Turbini grafts but found they take on pereskiopsis fairly easy, much like arios. The problem is as cortona said white seedlings are more difficult and un predictable. Only ever had two and lost them both.


As for the Arios, they most likly are variegated or similar. There is a good chance of getting ario mutations, much higher than most other sp. The problem is keeping them alive Smile

Good luck mate
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PostSubject: Re: grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides   grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides EmptySun Dec 21, 2008 8:19 pm

all gone!

the 4 I grafted are dead. I have two paler ones still alive and growing with the rest of them.
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bugger! least you tried, just chalk it up to experience, and go again Smile
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I feel your pain WT. At least you can take something from the experience.
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PostSubject: Re: grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides   grafting challenge - Turbinicarpus lophophoroides EmptyTue Dec 23, 2008 9:14 am

Sorry to hear that WT. I also feel your pain. Just lost an Astro caput-medusae and an Ario furf (variegated) to peres grafting. There is definitely a lot of hit n' miss involved with peres grafting.

Though looks like my two T. lophophoroides (normal/non-freak) made it, fingers crossed.

Try and try again I say.

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So sad - I've lost every graft I've tried on Perekinopsis this year bar one
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